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	<title>Comments on: Atheist Summer Camps Luring Kids Away</title>
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		<title>By: Linn</title>
		<link>http://wiredfornoise.com/atheist-summer-camps-luring-kids-away/comment-page-1#comment-6249</link>
		<dc:creator>Linn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We&#039;re not teaching them WHAT to think, but HOW to think.&quot; Pfft, sounds like doublespeak to me. Whether it&#039;s Bible camp or atheist camp, they&#039;re just indoctrinating the children. The kids aren&#039;t old enough to form their own opinions yet, so they just believe what their parents tell them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re not teaching them WHAT to think, but HOW to think.&#8221; Pfft, sounds like doublespeak to me. Whether it&#8217;s Bible camp or atheist camp, they&#8217;re just indoctrinating the children. The kids aren&#8217;t old enough to form their own opinions yet, so they just believe what their parents tell them.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://wiredfornoise.com/atheist-summer-camps-luring-kids-away/comment-page-1#comment-6000</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched a special on a &quot;Bible Camp&quot;  They showed pictures of aborted fetuses to five year olds.  I&#039;m not Atheist but I&#039;d send my kids to an Atheist camp before a bible camp anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a special on a &#8220;Bible Camp&#8221;  They showed pictures of aborted fetuses to five year olds.  I&#8217;m not Atheist but I&#8217;d send my kids to an Atheist camp before a bible camp anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Holzmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Holzmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting stuff! And, I totally agree: Hypocritical.

But understandable. Who wants their children to be &quot;lured&quot; into something that is going to ruin their life (especially the one to come)? These really are weighty matters, and so concern is natural and good (otherwise, it&#039;s not really important to you).

But you&#039;re totally right: Parents send their kids to camps that tend to align with their perspective, so the &quot;luring&quot; isn&#039;t really going on.

Candy bars for baptism? Seriously? Ugh. Not surprising (and, perhaps innocently oblivious to the message), but still... come on!

 ~Luke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting stuff! And, I totally agree: Hypocritical.</p>
<p>But understandable. Who wants their children to be &#8220;lured&#8221; into something that is going to ruin their life (especially the one to come)? These really are weighty matters, and so concern is natural and good (otherwise, it&#8217;s not really important to you).</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re totally right: Parents send their kids to camps that tend to align with their perspective, so the &#8220;luring&#8221; isn&#8217;t really going on.</p>
<p>Candy bars for baptism? Seriously? Ugh. Not surprising (and, perhaps innocently oblivious to the message), but still&#8230; come on!</p>
<p> ~Luke</p>
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		<title>By: Rita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At first glance, this could be any camp, anywhere.&quot;

Although I think they showed the camp in a positive light, this first sentence made it seem so sinister.

I&#039;m really glad you posted this video, because I honestly didn&#039;t know that atheist camps existed. Cool!

Also didn&#039;t know that Ireland has a blasphemy law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At first glance, this could be any camp, anywhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although I think they showed the camp in a positive light, this first sentence made it seem so sinister.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad you posted this video, because I honestly didn&#8217;t know that atheist camps existed. Cool!</p>
<p>Also didn&#8217;t know that Ireland has a blasphemy law.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@abbie, sadly...no. &quot;Freedom of religion&quot; doesn&#039;t include freedom FROM religion. It should....but it doesn&#039;t.
There was a church in my (childhood) town that gave out candy bars for children who &quot;chose&quot; to get baptized. Yea.... and they&#039;re upset about a camp that chooses not to talk about God? What is camp but....camping!!! For heaven sakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@abbie, sadly&#8230;no. &#8220;Freedom of religion&#8221; doesn&#8217;t include freedom FROM religion. It should&#8230;.but it doesn&#8217;t.<br />
There was a church in my (childhood) town that gave out candy bars for children who &#8220;chose&#8221; to get baptized. Yea&#8230;. and they&#8217;re upset about a camp that chooses not to talk about God? What is camp but&#8230;.camping!!! For heaven sakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Aryeh Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Aryeh Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really fascinating! I find fundamentalism frightening no matter whose it is - including atheists. I am an atheist but I have never assumed my kids would be. I think it would be cool for them to have more friends from atheist families - as homeschoolers it hasn&#039;t always been easy to find. But this CNN report doesn&#039;t really give me any idea if one of these camps would be social support or preaching. Looking at the film, I was most stuck by how shoddy the tents were. I take the quality of my camping gear almost as seriously as my lack of religious belief. ;)

@Amber, I *was* one of those born-again horseback riders. :)

@abbie, I did a blog post about being an atheist and was surprised by how supportive the response was, even from religious friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really fascinating! I find fundamentalism frightening no matter whose it is &#8211; including atheists. I am an atheist but I have never assumed my kids would be. I think it would be cool for them to have more friends from atheist families &#8211; as homeschoolers it hasn&#8217;t always been easy to find. But this CNN report doesn&#8217;t really give me any idea if one of these camps would be social support or preaching. Looking at the film, I was most stuck by how shoddy the tents were. I take the quality of my camping gear almost as seriously as my lack of religious belief. <img src='http://wiredfornoise.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Amber, I *was* one of those born-again horseback riders. <img src='http://wiredfornoise.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@abbie, I did a blog post about being an atheist and was surprised by how supportive the response was, even from religious friends.</p>
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		<title>By: abbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>abbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting about this.  I don&#039;t practice any religion and I worry about how I&#039;ll raise my kids without all the religious influence coming from well-meaning people.  In fact, I wrote a post about my choice not to believe in any god and have been afraid to post it because I still don&#039;t feel like it&#039;s acceptable to the majority of Americans.  Doesn&#039;t freedom of religion guarantee freedom not to practice, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting about this.  I don&#8217;t practice any religion and I worry about how I&#8217;ll raise my kids without all the religious influence coming from well-meaning people.  In fact, I wrote a post about my choice not to believe in any god and have been afraid to post it because I still don&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s acceptable to the majority of Americans.  Doesn&#8217;t freedom of religion guarantee freedom not to practice, too?</p>
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